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John
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Holy Trinity Sunday / Holy Pentecost Sunday


 

 

 

Pentecost in Greece (2012 - Sunday, June 3rd) happens fifty days after Greek Easter. While in some Christian denominations, this religious holiday slides by with relatively little fanfare, in Orthodox Greece Pentecost is vigorously celebrated. For the more secularly-minded traveler in Greece, it can even be thought of as a kind of "second Easter" if you've unfortunately missed the first.


It occurs on the seventh Sunday after Easter, or the "Fiftieth Day", and commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit. Pentecost is also known as Trinity Sunday.


In the U.S.A. - Trinity Sunday is the first Sunday after Pentecost and is celebrated by many Christians in the United States. It is one of the few feasts that are celebrated as a doctrine instead of an event. It is also symbolic of the unity of the Trinity.

 

May 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

M

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Thanks John,

 

There is a Solar calendar described in the Apocrypha, Jubilees, The Book of Enoch, and the Qumran (Dead Sea) Scrolls, it starts the year with the Vernal Equinox and places Pentecost on June 3rd (Sunday) or 5th (Sivan-15) depending on which way you look at it. I also think the Eastern Orthodox had a lot of things right when they split from Rome.

 

Interesting in 33 A.D. the new moon of Nisan began on the Vernal Equinox so there was no difference in the solar and lunar calendar that year, same thing happens in 2015.

 

Blessings

Mike

May 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Steve
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Interesting info. Thanks John and Michael.

 

 

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May 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

❀ Alison ❀
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Mike, is there a link to anywhere that shows it in some sort of calendar view or something? If so, I would love to see that. =)

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May 28, 2012 at 6:11 PM Flag Quote & Reply

M

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I can't say I agree or disagree with these interpretations, but there they are...

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot

 

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This interpretation was shared by the 2nd-century BCE author of the Book of Jubilees who was motivated by the priestly sabbatical solar calendar of the 3rd and 2nd centuries BCE, which was designed to have festivals and Sabbaths fall on the same day of the week every year. On this calendar (best known from the Book of Luminaries in 1 Enoch), Shavuot fell on the 15th of Sivan, a Sunday. The date was reckoned fifty days from the first Sabbath after Passover (i.e. from the 25th of Nisan). Thus, Jub. 1:1 claims that Moses ascended Mount Sinai to receive the Torah "on the sixteenth day of the third month in the first year of the Exodus of the children of Israel from Egypt".

 

 

In Jub. 6:15-22 and 44:1-5, the holiday is traced to the appearance of the first rainbow on the 15th of Sivan, the day on which God made his covenant with Noah.

 

 

Qumran school Gabriele Boccaccini has suggested that the 1,290 and 1,335 days of Daniel 12:11-12 point to the observance of Shavuot in a restored Israel, as reckoned by the priestly solar calendar. These durations are exactly 30 and 45 days longer than the 3 ½ years mentioned in Dan. 7:25 and 9:27. The period of 3 ½ years amounts to 1,260 days in the priestly solar calendar because the equinoxes and solstices count as markers of the seasons rather than monthly days (1 En. 74:11, 75:1, 82:4). The blessings expected at the end of the 1,335 days pertain to the resurrection to "everlasting life" mentioned a few verses earlier (12:2), and this is the reward to those who refused to forsake the covenant unto death (Dan. 11:22, 11:28, 11:30, 11:33-35), while those who forsook the covenant (11:30-32) face "everlasting contempt".

 

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http://rcg.org/articles/htcp.html

 

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The third group, the Qumran sect, authored the Dead Sea Scrolls. Their calendar departed from the sacred calendar radically. This most likely resulted from Hellenistic influences and pressures.

 

 

Unlike the Pharisees, who always counted from the day following the first day of Unleavened Bread, the Qumrans counted from the day following the last day. Thus, Pentecost always fell on the 15th day of Sivan. The last day of Unleavened Bread always fell on the weekly Sabbath. Counting fifty days from the day following the weekly Sabbath, they arrived at a Sunday.

 

 

Like the Falashas, they always kept Pentecost late. Their calendar was so distorted that they not only observed Pentecost on the wrong day, but also erred with the date of Passover and the days of Unleavened Bread.

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Simple Math....

 

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  • 33 AD Fri 20-Mar Equinox 1 Nisan (PSC)
  • 14
  • 33 AD Fri 3-Apr 14 Nisan (PSC)

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  • Tuesday, March 20, 2012
  • +75
  • Sunday, June 03, 2012 Sivan 15 (PSC) Eastern Pentecost

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  • Six day war -- Sunday, June 04, 1967 Sivan 15 (PSC) Pentecost

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May 29, 2012 at 1:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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